RE: [Stoves] TLUD Summit discussion continues on Listservs


Crispin,

Each stove owner gets to decide about release of any data, whether summary data or details like spreadsheets.

For the Champion and FABstove tests, let’s wait until Suddha and I provide our interpretations / analyses.

Meanwhile, can you be specific about what issues you would be examining and hypotheses of what you could find. That could be a strong incentive to provide the detailed data. There are at least two different objectives:
1. To analyze the testing calculations that are used in the spreadsheets. THAT is a question for Dean, and many of us are interested in that aspect. Personally, I still do not have a good feel for how the old tier system (4 tiers) has changed to the new system with 5 tiers.
2. To analyze the differences between two similar but slightly different runs of the test. THAT is of interest to the stove owners.

Paul

Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP
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From: Stoves <stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org> On Behalf Of Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
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Subject: Re: [Stoves] TLUD Summit discussion continues on Listservs

Are they willing to share the spreadsheets that produced these numbers?

Thanks
Crispin
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Subject: [Stoves] TLUD Summit discussion continues on Listservs

Stovers and Biocharists,

A total of 16 tests of stoves were conducted at the January 2019 TLUD Summit held at Aprovecho. A summary data sheet from Aprovecho is attached. Just seeing the numbers without discussions is less than ideal, so please do not over-examine the results.
16 tests total:
2 of one stove that was not TLUD powered (Marco – plancha stove from Guatemala)
1 test of a large TLUD-ND-Large and not intended as a cooking stove ~15 kW) (Norm biochar maker model 16(?) )
4 tests of Kirk Harris Wonderwerks TLUD-ND
3 tests of Champion TLUD-ND
3 tests of Champion TLUD-FA (yes, forced air and not many changes to the Champion TLUD)
3 tests of FABstove TLUD-FA

Details with explanations, photos, and interpretations are forthcoming, being prepared by Suddha Banerjee and myself, with comments from any of the stove owners. Please be patient; might take another week.

Paul

Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP
Email: psanders@ilstu.edu<mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu> Skype: paultlud
Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile: 309-531-4434
Website: www.drtlud.com<nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drtlud.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C701d76f1f877449d2ed908d691d60aaf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636856746344590906&sdata=FrDA…>